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Commercial clip downs

Post by John Softly » Sat Oct 15, 2005 2:47 pm

Apart from the Breakaway Impact sinkers there are two major gizmo's on the market for clipping down baits for distance casting.
The first, and original, clip down is the Breakaway Impact Shield. This ingenius little device works 100% of the time and it is the product that the whole Breakaway company is built on. It relies on the upward motion of the clip on impact and a stopped bead slides the line down the shoulder and the line pushes to hook off the clip

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The clip prior to impact

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The clip on impact - the line slides down the shoulder

The other is the Gemini ABC clip which also relies on water pressure to release the clip. The pix are self explanitory.

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The components on the rig body


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Ready to cast

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Hook released on impact

Anyone else think of a release clip? Remember that the hook must either be pushed off the clip or enough slack must be created in the snood (about 30mm) so that the hook drops off. There are ways of creating slack from the top end of the snood, where its attached to the rig body but that really is rocket science! In most of these scenarios, when the rig is a paternoster, the length of the snood is critical. I make mine 33cm (plus or minus 2mm - no more). Clip downs are also used for tailor rigs and although a pilly isn't the best aerodynamic shape reasonable distances can be achieved by clipping them down in the sinker slipstream.

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Post by Ian Cameron » Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:10 pm

Removing the tail off the pillie makes them throw further. For salmon onthe NSW soth coast we used to reverse the pillie on the gang as they swallow them head first. As a side benefit they also cast further. Doing this with tailor gets more bite-offs unless wire is used too although I have had a few times using garfish when the tailor were headhunting (always big ones ).

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Post by John Softly » Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:45 am

Now for some rocket science! Clips such as these are minefields for rig makers.

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One assumes that a normal one hook paternoster is constructed, the baited hook placed in the clip and ‘She’ll be right’. She won’t be right because there will be no slack created in the snood and the hook may or may not come off the clip.
When power casting the force of the cast, prior to release, puts enough pressure on the rig body to stretch the mono thus reducing the diameter. This phenomenon is what we use to give slack to the snood. The point where the snood is attaches to the rig body on a conventional rig looks like this:-

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What we are going to do is put a sliding stop on the rig body which is crimped just enough to make it grip when everything is stationary but will slip downwards on the cast due to the reduced diameter of the rig body:-

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Air pressure will keep the baited hook in the clip whilst it is in the air but it will fall off on impact – every time. On retrieve the sliding stop has to be returned to it’s original position prior to the next cast.
Note: Dave Docwra is no longer in business and his clips are no longer available but it
is possible to fashion the Aeroclip by hand. This clip positions the baited hook closer to the sinker than any other.
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Re: Commercial clip downs

Post by borntofish » Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:24 pm

Which stores stock the clips pictured?

PS: you can use an fish hook with some of the point section cut away.

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Re: Commercial clip downs

Post by anglerman » Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:21 am

Breakaway also produce the IMP which is a smaller than the Impact shield.

I have a photo but cannot get it to show here.

I can emeil to some one who may be able to gey iy shown here.

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Re: Commercial clip downs

Post by borntofish » Wed Apr 08, 2009 10:33 am

anglerman wrote:Breakaway also produce the IMP which is a smaller than the Impact shield.

I have a photo but cannot get it to show here.

I can emeil to some one who may be able to gey iy shown here.
Yes, they look good - but I can't find a store in Sydney which stocks any of these clips.

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Re: Commercial clip downs

Post by mulloway » Sat May 09, 2009 8:56 pm

A few of us in south west WA have been using the imp clips for some timenow and they work every time.Also very few releases mid flight but i have had a number break.The plastic clip part will give way after repeated use with fairly big sinkers eg 170 gram.

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Re: Commercial clip downs

Post by anglerman » Wed May 13, 2009 3:07 pm

Mulloway

A question re the imps as I have heard a similar thing from New Zealand.

What size bait are you using with the imp, if it is two large it may be moving down over the imp release part and therefore on impact with the water stopping the imp from opening properly, hence the break. Tha bait will move in the action of casting.

I have worked on using imps for smaller baits and impact shields for the larger baits.

I dont think the imp was designed for large baits.

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Re: Commercial clip downs

Post by mulloway » Wed May 13, 2009 8:17 pm

Hi Graham.

Use mainly mullet strips on a 3 hook snood of 2 5/o and a 6/0 circle on top for sharks and mulloway.Bait is about 8 inches by about 1.5 inches.Use a lot of mulies during daytime fishing for salmon and tailor on a 3 or 4 hook gang of tarpons.When the imp clips break they break at the hole in the plastic as nothing comes back except the stainless bit.At $1.50 each over here they are a bit dear but still the best bet for clip down rigs and overhead reels i think.Some of the UK ebay sites have them for about .50 cents so might order some from there.

Regards Graeme.

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