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Post by John Softly » Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:44 am

For those out there who fish 2 rods from rod rests or those who have trouble with rests that continually fall over I have found that the Paul Kerry type is superior to just about anything.

http://www.fishingmonthly.com.au/softly/rodrests.html

The drawing mentions alluminium tube for the butt cup and the top C rest but poly tubing is just as good if not better.
When fishing 2 rods the rests are placed side by side so that the tips are parallel - even the smallest bites can be seen and a torch can be rigged to illuminate the rod tips at night. The rests are reasonably light, strong and transport easily. After five years of use there has never been an occasion where the rest has given way and dropped a reel in the sand.
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Post by Jeremy Schrader » Fri Dec 16, 2005 11:03 am

John ,


I have found that there is a Victorian distributer for the English tripods ( Ian Gold ) and have been using on myself for the past number of years is anyone is interested I will get his contact details and post them on the site.


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Jeremy :D

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Post by John Softly » Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:53 pm

Hi Jeremy,
Ian Golds certainly makes the Rolls Royce of tripods. I have a Breakaway tripod but prefer the aforementioned rod holders for beach work. Tripods come into their own when fishing rock venues but I have found that unless you suspend a bucket of water or sand from the apex tripods are not stable in windy conditions.
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Post by ste80 » Mon Jan 02, 2006 11:08 am

hey guys, these rod rests r very interesting and i think very effective.... i just wonder... in which kind of shops here in australia (sydney..) may i find the main body, the aluminium angle 1.2 metres in length....... and do u need to cut the bottom part to make the point which goes into the sand? if so how do u do it?
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Post by John Softly » Mon Jan 02, 2006 11:54 am

Stefano,
My original ones were of a light aluminium from Mitre 10 but you may have to go to a specialist aluminium supplies for the 3mm stuff.
A hacksaw is used to cut the angles - cleaned up with a file.
I think the reason they are so effective is that you can use your foot on the cup for extra pressure to get them into the sand and the rod pulls out quickly when there is a bite - there is no need to lift and pull as in the tube type.
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Post by ken moran » Mon Jan 02, 2006 3:07 pm

Rod rests I have used are simply lengths of pvc pipe from the plumbers shop, "Boots Plumbing" in Maitland. Buy a piece twice as long as you need, they only need to be 500-600mm long at the most and cut through the middle of the pipe like this =======\======== You dont cut each end off to a point and then cut them to length, that's three cuts you have to make! Make the cut at a lower angle than I have shown. Push the rod rest into the sand and pull it out bringing a core of sand with it and then put it back in the hole, then the pipe is mostly empty and has more room for the rod and is help up by being deeper in the sand. Dont make them so long that the reel seat touches the top of the tube or it marks the reel.

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Post by Rod B » Mon Jan 16, 2006 7:06 pm

This is a rod rest made using the ideas in the Paul Kerry book. Overall length is 1.2mtr's. The black mark at the pointy end is to give an idea of how far into the sand it is pushed (30cm) that way I can be more certain that it won't fall over. The 'bright' bits are reflective tape that make it easy to find on a dark night on the beach. Also gives 4WD owners a target to aim at :lol: when driving up the beach.

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The Alvey fish ruler is stuck on with double sided tape. Been there a couple of seasons so far with no sign of coming off.
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Post by ausyowie » Tue Jan 17, 2006 11:19 am

ken moran wrote:Rod rests I have used are simply lengths of pvc pipe from the plumbers shop, "Boots Plumbing" in Maitland. Buy a piece twice as long as you need, they only need to be 500-600mm long at the most and cut through the middle of the pipe like this =======\======== You dont cut each end off to a point and then cut them to length, that's three cuts you have to make! Make the cut at a lower angle than I have shown. Push the rod rest into the sand and pull it out bringing a core of sand with it and then put it back in the hole, then the pipe is mostly empty and has more room for the rod and is help up by being deeper in the sand. Dont make them so long that the reel seat touches the top of the tube or it marks the reel.

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Ken,

These are the rest that I use, but mine are just a little different,

What I do it heat up the top with a heat gun and when the PVC is a little soft, I push it onto a beer bottle or similar, creating a flared or trumpet like top. This makes putting the rod in a little easier.

In order to push the stand deeper into the sand without the reel seat touching the top I put a stainless steel bolt through the tube at the optimum distance for the rod that I'm using. This way I can make them as long as I like and push them deeper into the sand if I need.

They are cheap to make and I customise their dimensions for specific rods.

Cheers, David

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Post by John Softly » Wed Jan 18, 2006 1:20 pm

Guys
I think the point is being missed here.
The primary reason for the Paul Kerry style rest is that it's main function is to hold the rod all the time not as a temporary holder when baiting up etc. The Zippies, Century and Conoflex rods are too heavy to be held for any length of time and when anchored sinkers are used and the line taut between the rod tip and the sinker bite detection is far better when the rod is in a rest than if it were hand held. Use two rods, in rests, with their tips 6 inches apart and bite detection is even better. Rod tips are easy to light in the dark by a small LED torch.
Once a bite is detected the rod pulls straight out of the PK type rest whereas with a tube the rod has to be lifted and if there is pressure on the rod this action can prove difficult. Game fishermen out there will tell you how difficult a flatlining rod, in a tube type rest on the transome, can be to remove when a fish takes - even though there is very little drag applied at the strike.
The PK type rest supports the rod at two points some 70 centimeters apart and there is less rod tip movement from wave action than if it were only supported for 30 cm at the butt. Tripods are a much better proposition from rocks and uneven hard surfaces but for a sand rest that never falls over it is my opinion that the Paul Kerry type rod rest is far superior to the tube type.
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Post by ken moran » Wed Jan 18, 2006 8:30 pm

This is my rod holder and for fishing, is all that is needed, clearly it is two bricks long.

It is 40mm plastic pipe, there is a 10mm hole drilled in the squared off end in case I want to tie it to something.

David, there was no photo on your message(that I could find)



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Post by Rod B » Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:58 pm

Like John says you guys are not getting the picture. Using the Paul Kerry style rod holder when you go to set the hooks, all that is needed is to grasp the rod and walk backwards. Using any of the pipe style holders means you have to lift the rod first before being able to set the hooks. The degree of difficulty varies with the pull on the line.
I do use one of the pipe type holders but only near my gear to set the rod in, to keep the reel out of the sand, when I do any work on the rig or to re-bait. Neither is technically wrong, just the Paul Kerry style is more practicle.
Rod.

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Post by ausyowie » Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:13 am

Point taken guys, now that I've seen the picture of the Paul Kerry rest I can see what you mean. I might have a crack at making a couple myself. :)

Cheers,

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Post by craftycarp » Mon Apr 17, 2006 9:32 am

Someone on sportfishextreme.com used to make landbased buddies a tripod type thing you attach to your rod. They seemed like an excellent idea to me.

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Post by cyberfish » Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:53 am

I checked that one out on sportfish. The clip on rod holder would be handy to keep the rod tip off the rocks but no good on the sand though as the reel would get full of sand. Unless it's an Alvey of course!!!

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Re: Rod Rests

Post by graysilk » Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:29 pm

Hi There,

Does anyone know of a distributor of Ian Gold or similar type beach Tripod rests. I've been searching the internet for a supplier in Australia and cant find one. i did read in a post written in 2005 that there was a distributor in Victoria.

Any information would be greatly appreciated

Gary

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Re: Rod Rests

Post by Jeremy Schrader » Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:48 am

Gary ,

I am currently in the UK so don't have access to my normal phone with all the contact details , once I get back I will email you the phone number.

Regards :mrgreen:

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Re: Rod Rests

Post by terrydel » Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:52 pm

Hi Jeremy
Could you send me the contact details as well
Many Thanks
Terry

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